HALLCIENDA - Alice Eby Hall

HALLCIENDA - Alice Eby Hall

What is HALLCIENDA? It is 80+ ACRES WITHIN THE SAN BERNARDINO NATIONAL FOREST where only dairy goats with ample substance can thrive. It sits astride the San Andreas Earthquake Fault. 1961-20?? Who is Hallcienda? Alice Eby, born in 1938 in Chicago, moved to California in 1944, where, even in town, her father had a goat and a hive of bees. Alice was given a Saanen/Nubian cross in 1948 when her family moved to ten acres in Devore, the southern portal of the Cajon Pass by breeder/dairywoman, JANE SMITH. Nancy Caprice became Alices best friend and amused her with antics when told to sic em. Below right is Alice with Nancy, and below left they are joined by Alices sister Laura with her Saanen doe Lulu Belle while brother John looks on from the top of the hay feeder. Alice had a curious mind and loved to learn, as BA and MA degrees and teaching credentials indicate. From the moment Alice was introduced to Mendellian

genetics and the simple punnet square in high school, she became fascinated with heredity. This punnet square shows that two heterozygous brown-eyed parents have a 25% chance of having a blue-eyed child when B=brown and b=blue. The same square used when R=red and r=black pretty well illustrates the hereditary pattern of color in Nubians. A larger, more complex punnet square would have to be used to figure in white and patterns. College classes in population genetics and heredity and evolution rounded out her educationback in the days when Darwin was used to explain differences between populations rather than all of Gods creation! Alice always liked to hang around with people who could stretch her mind, cause her to ask questions, and help her to answer them. Who else is Hallcienda?

In 1961, Alice Eby married Roger Hall and moved to the ranch he shared with his parents. Roger ran cattle on the acreage, but he liked Duroc hogs best. He did not like goats because while majoring in agriculture in college, no classes on goats were offered. He figured they were not worth much. However, some of Rogers FFA students had active 4-H dairy goat projects, and Roger became intrigued with the animals. Among those students were ALLEN FULMER, who owned the essentially Hurricane Acres (Alice Tracy) herd he called Kasmiri; ALLEN MEEDER, the son of AL AND DONNIS MEEDER who owned the Swiss Miss Toggenburg dairy in Devils Canyon of San Bernardino; and JIM FOGG, the son of Superior Court judge and AMGRA judge EDWARD P. FOGG and his wife JANE. The Foggs owned Willownook Acres. When the Halls bought the Hall acreage and started their own herd, Roger coined the name Hallcienda. How Did Hallcienda Evolve? 1. AGS registered Barbies Thumper and Bumper arrived July 1, 1961purchased

from RICHARD AND CHARLAINE LINE, who later developed the beautiful Chardi Nubians. Thumper and Bumper were grand daughters of Castle Rock Capsidi Mahaguru. The Castle Rock herd perched on a bluff overlooking the Southern California Pacific Ocean. Thumper and Bumper are pictured below with Rogers niece, Dianna. 2. The next purchase was in December 1961 when two mature bred does, Naja Gayala and Naja Gayla were picked up in Turlock, CA. Within two months, the does presented Hallcienda with three bucks and a doe. Gayalas son, Goliath served Hallcienda for ten years. His brother died as a kid, and Gaylas son Naja Gay Raja Hall died after a few years of service. Rajas sister Rani, also served Hallcienda well. The older animals were AMGRA. The kids were dual. This three-generation group shown by Alice Hall and good friend AUDREY EVANS, owner of Del-Laine

Toggenburgs and Saanens, is composed of Naja Gayala, Naja Gayla, and Hallcienda Gaylee. Gayala and Gayla were six and four years old and both bred to Naja Warpaint when Halls purchased them from DONOVAN AND ETHYL BEAL, who owned the Naja all-breed dairy. Donovan also offered showmanship and judging suggestions. AUDREY joined Alice in dual membership and dual judgingthe only two in the country for many years. 3. Jonubian Mitzi B came to Hallcienda from CHARLIE JOBES herd, which was primarily based on EFFIE EVANS Evania stock. Mitzi impressed Roger at an FFA field day when she produced at least a gallon of milk at each milking. 4. ALLEN FULMERs Kasmiri herd came to live at Hallcienda when Allen decided hed rather have a car. He had developed his herd from Delta Belle of MARVIN AND GLADYS MAXWELLs Delta herd. He bred her to ALICE TRACYs famous buck, Hurricane Acres Penny Royal, and he continued to breed the offspring back to Penny Royal. 5. Araby Royal Beauty was next to join Hallcienda. Araby, owned by JOANNA PRICE in Cajon Pass, was a

Hurricane Acres Satellite . The dairy herd pictured at right shows Araby Royal Beauty, Kasmiri Dustys Wynken, and Naja Gayla. Beautys progeny were not used in Hallciendas program because of lack of dairy temperament. 6. From LOUIS GAKLEs (pronounced Gay-klee) Ontario herd came Ileah Belles Lori of Ontario. From CLAUDIA BESSs La Hondo Springs herd, La Hondo Springs Petite Pearl and La Hondo Springs Malvina also joined Hallcienda. 7. 1964 was a heavy buck year, so Roger and Alice contacted breeders from all over the mid-west and offered to trade a California buck kid for a doe kid. That interesting trip brought in four does from Oklahoma, Texas, and Missouri. Due to a dog attack, most of those does were not incorporated into the breeding program. Halls met interesting breeders like ADGAs JIM MORRISON, JOHN EMMERSON, KEITH RANDALL, the SMALLEY brothers, CHARLES MOSS, AL BOMMER, the BRADFORDS, FOWLERS, and NICHOLS of Texas, and CARL AND VIOLET ROMER who brought Halls into AGS, Alice as a judge. 8. Twins, Hallcienda Gayleen, left, and GCH Hallcienda Glenda were departures from Hallciendas usual Hurricane Acres/Naja breeding program. They were daughters of Hallcienda Gaylee, shown earlier in the three-generation photo, and sired by EFFIE

EVANS Pepper of Evania. Gayleen had two legs and a junior leg, which did not count toward GCH back then. Brother Glen contributed to another herd. 9) When Hallcienda found itself without any bucks, JAMIE SMITH of Cooks Rancho Nubians generously supplied a very good Marvin-related one to keep Hallcienda going. Many thanks to her! And that pretty much summarizes the eclectic beginnings and salvation of Hallcienda! Hallcienda Mentors Alice Hall had many mentors while she developed her Hallcienda herd. At left she is with 1) LOUIS GAKLE, owner of the Ontario herd. Louis taught her how to dehorn and was

generous with other management advice. This picture was taken at Los Angeles County Fair, where Louis built most of the pens, stanchions, and loft living areas in the old user-friendly barn. He kept his Ontario herd until his death at the age of 100. Another mentor was 2) CLAUDIA BESS of La Hondo Springs herd, with whom Alice traveled and showed. 3) MARVIN MAXELL of Delta taught Alice much history. 4) WES NORDFELT of Laurelwood Acres shared buck barn plans, and 5) WES AND DAVID THIELEKE of Wesdamar Dairy furnished plans for the milking stanchion. 6) Amos and Ellen Nixon shared tips on dairy organization at both their dairy locations. 7) JACK BUCK COPELAND, shown at right judging a buck show, was instrumental in coaching Alice in choosing a good buck, and that is why Goliath and Antony stayed at Hallcienda. Halls connected with many breeders on their

1963 goat-trading trip. From them they learned that choice of goat registry was as Above JIM MORRISON (Elm important to Above AL BOMMER shows off his Hills) shows one of his pied white Nubians in Missouri. (AMGRA) these people as choice of church. Nubians in MO (AMGRA). Below JOHN EMMERSON (AGS) Below RAY GREER (Elm Valley/ Arrow Rock) demonstrates his goatcatcher. Sunlite Alpines) judges an AGS National show at Del Mar, CA in 1970 as J. WILLETT TAYLOR clerks. RAY started as an AGS judge and

later went dualone of only three. In 1969 Alice (second from right) poses with some of the AGS greats at the annual meeting. AGS secretary CARL ROMER (Sunflower Alpines) (MO) was instrumental in bringing Roger and Alice Hall into AGS. He became a valued mentor, as his knowledge of dairy goat registry history was unsurpassed. He was a fair and impartial secretary and willingly shared his procedures with the Halls. He was so outspoken, though, that he alienated many AMGRA members. His wife, Violet, served as a marvelous helpmeet. President EDNA CONNELL and her many children ran a commercial dairy in MO. She was a real lady! Director, judge, and classifier LUCY TYLER not only ran a commercial diary in NY, but she also delivered the milk to some of the roughest areas of NY City. In addition, she showed her animals all over the country. On one trip to AZ, she hit a steer in a cattle herd that decided to cross the road in front of her. She pulled over, and a trucker also stopped to help her move the carcass. As they dragged it roadside, it shook its head, got up and galloped off to join the herd.

On the right is secretary elect J. WILLETT TAYLOR (KS), who never had a goat but classified Jerseys. He was recruited by AGS in a most unusual way. AGS had scheduled a show in Manhattan, KS. Exhibitors were ready, but the judge didnt show up. Word came that hed had an accident and would not be there. Romer contacted city officials and was told that a local agriculture teacher might be able to help. Willett objected that he had zero experience with dairy goats. Romer told him if he knew dairy cattle, he could judge dairy goats and issued a one-day license on the spot. Willett stayed with AGS as classifier trainer, judge, and secretary extraordinaire! 8) ED AND BETRIC COULTER of Coulter-R Nubians taught Alice how to face adversity. 9) Doctor Robert A. Jackson, San Bernardino County Veterinarian, was Alices most memorable mentor. At right, they demonstrate to a class they taught at the University of California, Riverside how to do an autopsy. As Alice learned and felt she was bursting with knowledge, she knew she had to share. Besides the college classes she taught and the articles she wrote for numerous magazines, she published

four books on dairy goats and a few related books. The book pictured at the left is the content of the UCR course in print under the same title as the course. Hallcienda Accomplishments 1. Thumper and Bumper only whetted the Halls appetites for knowledge. They went goating almost every weekend, visiting goat dairy herds all over Southern and Central California and parts of Arizona and Nevada. They joined the Paradise Valley Dairy Goat Association and got involved with shows. Alice became a delegate to the California State Dairy Goat Council, but she needed more. AMGRA (later ADGA) offered a judges training school in 1962, which Alice attended. Surprisingly, she passed and became a very inexperienced novice judge. She started judging before she started winning. She judged until 1979 with ADGA and on into 2009 with AGS. She also classified for AGS after training with

Tyler and Taylor. Hallciendas successes were built upon previous work by other breeders as well as Divine intervention. SHOW SCENES LeftA Nixon champion Alpine doe. RightAudrey Evans first place Saanen dairy herd. Center belowA Nixon champion LaMancha buck. Rightan Oberhasli doebred from Swiss Alpines.

LeftLiz Meeders junior champion Toggenburg buck. RightAn AMGRA National Show Nubian class at L.A. Co. Fair. 2. Hallcienda Nulah was the first Hallcienda championat an AMGRA national show. Her dam was Kasmiri Dustys Wynken, and her sire was Naja Gay Raja Hall. ETHYL BEAL was the judge, and other Nubian exhibitors did not take a novice win graciously. Nulah was the first win of over a dozen Hallcienda permanent champions and several others who had one or two wins but never made permanent. MCH/GCH *+B Naja GoliathHalls Doll bloomed late. He started winning shows when he was eight years old. Before that, judges hesitated to put him up because of his serrated scrotum. ALICE TRACY advised his use in spite of judges. He had a marvelous profile. 3. While Hallcienda did not set production records because a) the herd runs all over the hills, b) the kids

nurse, c) herd diet is primarily local scrub (including astringent acorns), over two dozen Hallcienda Nubian bucks bear the * and + production symbols. Several does had up to 7 stars before their names. Terry lost her 6th star due to a systemic infection that blocked production, so her daughter had only one. 4. Hallcienda Frosty Marvin set records for bucks of all breeds in predictability of improvement in offspring over their dams. His owner, BARBARA THRASHER, Pepperwood Farms, campaigned him to fame with 27 championships and hundreds of straws of semen sold. Marvin was born at Hallcienda on a Saturday in December to (later 6*M) Hallcienda Noel. Since Halls needed milk, not a buck out of a first freshener, they pulled the baby into the house to be taken to the auction on Tuesday. By Tuesday, they knew two things: he was a very pretty kid, and his mother was an excellent milker for a yearling. Marvin did not go to the auction. Instead, Roger took the kid to a student to raise. The boy named him Marvin and kept him in the bathroom for three months, allowing the kid to follow him to

school so he could skip class to take him home. At three months, Marvin had to be taught to be a goat, and BARBARA THRASHER was delighted to give him a try. She did not like the name, so inserted Frosty! He already responded to Marvin. Hallcienda Cleopatra was one of many acts of God because Alice would never have purposely bred undershot Kasmiri Dustys Wynken to pouty Naja GoliathHalls Doll. Cleo combined production and show beautifully. Her high day was about 22 pounds, but she didnt make top ten because shed be dry in seven months instead of ten. She was the dam of both Marvins parents. Marvins dam, H. Noel, was a tall, rangy, angular, roan doe, who produced well and would have classified well but didnt show well. She thrived even with an auto-immune condition while her two smaller sisters did not. GCH *B Hallcienda Antony, a Cleo son, was Marvins sire. He was as big and good as

Marvin but more timidhated to be shown, and his semen was never collected. Antony was sired by Hallcienda Magic Garry out of Naja Gayla by GCH Black Magics Andre Nicki. Black Magic herd was owned by the DOCTORS DUMOUCHEL and was heavily Hurricane Acres. Antony and Marvin both had mellow temperaments that breeders enjoyed having in their herds. 5. Alice enjoyed learning and applying her knowledge. Her evaluation of old pedigrees taught her that older breeders had line bred and inbred extensively. One buck that showed up frequently in Naja pedigrees especially was imported buck Milkey Whey Garry. Combined with what Alice learned in college, she decided shed go against popular opinion and inbreed her herd. However, she first red-lined pedigrees to eliminate the most obvious fault she saw in her herd swollen knees. She found a beautiful line on which she could not line-breed for that reason. She practiced patterns in pedigrees in which she looked for triangles connecting related animals. Marvins (the M in the middle) pedigree at right shows inbreeding in the straight

lines of Cleopatra (C) and her dams family at the bottom. The triangles of Goliath (G) and his sire Warpaint (T) show line-breeding that generally works well. In addition, a rectangle links Goliaths dam because Gayla (L) had the same dam, Gayala (Y). Alice used this kind of mapping with most of her breeding. Abovesome of the trophies won by Hallcienda animals through the years. The Historic Herdname plaque at right is especially treasured for the wording of the reason. LeftHallcienda Shelly, a full sister to Marvin, as she showed in 1974. RightShelly in 1976 in a fight with wasting arthritis, a disease that cannot be predicted by pedigree evaluation. 6) Alice Hall also served three terms, nine years, on the ADGA Board of Directors, and later, after ROGERs term as president of AGS, she served an equal amount of time on the AGS Board. She also trained AGS judges and classifiers and once served on an ADGA judges training committee.

7. Everything Alice learned started appearing in writingarticles in various dairy goat publications, and books. Nubian History was illustrated by DOROTHY SCHOTT of Big Schotts Saanens. Dorothy was one of Rogers FFA students. Selecting, Fitting, and Showing was illustrated with photographs by the author and sketches by BETSY HOLLERAN of Holleran

Whoop Herd of Pymies. The book on the right was first and had three runs before it went out of print. Friend AUDREY EVANS of Del-Laine herd helped firm showing procedures before they were written. Nubian History, an updated reprint of MRS. ROBERT REINHARDTs 1947 book, never sold well, but it is out of print and has sold for as much as $85 on e-bay. It needs to be updated and reprinted to preserve Nubian History. 8. Kidding Around featured goat political and management cartoons by BETSY HOLLERAN of Holleran Whoop Nubians and Pygmies with explanatory limericks and other verses by Alice Hall. Ruminations was a poetry book, and Echoes of Eden, the newest goat book, is autobiographical. It had a very short run but is available on a print on demand basis. 9. Alice represented AGS on the NCDHIP board for a few years. This group set policy for all dairymen in the country who were on production testing programs. 10. In the 1970s, Alice started getting restless, dissatisfied with judging and showing. Everything seemed to be so predictable. Then LIZ GROGAN gave her a pair of Pygmy

goats, Porgy and Bess, and the excitement was rekindled. Could Alice do with Pygmies what she had done with Nubians? RON MAAHS of the Norshaam herd also had Pygmies and bet her she could. They even traded animals back and forth to enhance both herds. And with the help of NANCY LAKE of Longden Acres and her buck Rons Little Carl, and DON CHRISTIANSONs champion buck, Artic Acres Bear, (inset) Alice succeeded. In time, Nigerian refinement overcame Bears muscling. Alice worked to establish the Pygmy registry and breed club, and was appointed to certify animals for the registry. In that process, some rangy Pygmies showed up that owners insisted were Nigerian Dwarves, but they were included in the Pygmy registry until a separate registry for them came much later. Champion Pygmy Hallcienda Easter is shown left in 1992, and Norshaam Sally, an early Nigerian at right shows little difference from early Pygmies. 11. Once again, when knowledge bubbled over, Alice put it in writing. The Pygmy

book (1982) went through one revision (1992), after Nigerian Dwarves were added to the registry, and several reprintings. LOREN JOHNSON of Chino Acres Pygmies, a fellow California Pygmy certifier, helped with the editing. First edition is on the left, and the reprint, right. Illustrations were done by JAMIE SMITH of Cooks Rancho Nubians. This book is also out of print. Pictured on the cover of the new edition is Alice in 1985 with MCH Hallcienda Carlotta at the Los Angeles County Fair. Carlotta was the daughter of Norshaam Sandra Clause, a maximum-sized doe and NANCY LAKEs Rons Little Carl, (inset) who was below minimum in height and cannon length.

12. In 1979, the miraculous happened. After almost 19 years of marriage, Roger and Alice produced an offspring, Stephen Divine Hall II, named after his great grand father. a) Friends AUDREY EVANS, Del Laine Saanens and Toggs, and CAROL HOACH, Hoachs Alpines celebrate with Alice at one shower. Center ALICE TRACY (91), Hurricane Acres Nubians presented the other Alice with her own silver baby spoon at the shower hosted by IRENE CRIPPEN, of Silver Thistle and CHARLAINE LINE, of Chardi right. c) By the time he was two, Stephen switched to Pygmies. At three, he talked his way into a showmanship placing. Here he cuddles a favorite, Hallcienda Divine Cherie. b) Above, Stephen meets his first goat, a Saanan, Hallcienda

Divine Stephanie. To simplify life, all the Nubians except six old or sick does left for Oregon. Younger animals shipped were the result of an outcross on a Silver Thistle buck of SHORTY AND IRENE CRIPPEN. In 1983 WES NORDFELT, between Laurelwood Acres and New York, babysat Stephen (right), his own son Nathan (center), and a neighbor boy in San Luis Obispo while Roger and Alice attended an agriculture teachers banquet at Cal Poly. By nine Stephen had won a presidential In 2003, Stephen academic

graduated magna cum achievement laude from Chapman award and three University. He liked the science fairs. university atmosphere so much, he stayed and is now assistant registrar. He married Korine Craze in 2010, and they live in Orange, CA near the university. HALLCIENDA ENDS THE 20TH CENTURY Between 1994 and 1998, California cougars decimated Hallcienda, taking nearly 90% of the herds and flocks. The no cougar-hunting law of the 1970s resulted in mountain lion over-population and diminishing deer herdsthe Hallcienda deer were

reduced from 18 to five. Then the cougars hit the domestic herds, and because they practice surplus killing, Hallcienda lost all its Pygmies, the last of the Saanens, the last two Tunis sheep, all but two of the Suffolk sheep, over 20 peafowl, and uncounted Nubians. Alice retired from teaching in 1998 and stayed with the herd all day every day. Night time facilities were roofed and secure. The 2003 fire destroyed cougar habitat, so Nubians have made a small come-back. Wardens issued depredation permits, and five Hallcienda mountain lions were shot. Pictured is the last one, the smallest and most aggressive. Roger got it with a .22 after it ran from Alices 30/30. Hallcienda in the 21 Century st Pretty but unprovenno showing, evaluating, or testing. And theyve

been so traumatized by cougars, they often run away overnight. AboveBrandon in 2002; BelowLacey and Allison in 2001. RightPatula and Kaya. But there is good milk on brush diet, more learning, and more blessings. And Alice remains grateful to God and to all breeders on whose contributions she built. AboveLoretta in 2011. BelowKaren in 2005.

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